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Welding & Gas CFO Club Recap December 2024

Thursday, January 23, 2025
Tony Hopkins
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Thanks to the crew of 11 that joined us for our 14th meeting. Good luck to everyone running into year end. I hope you have a great holiday! Merry Christmas, everyone!

Note Summary

  • Collection efforts
    • Industrial clients pay pretty well, bar and restaurant CO2 always seems to be the challenge – many have different protocols for each (tightening the bar and restaurant leniency
    • Many are tiering customer by industry type or simply ranking them based on past experience for calls as early as 30-60 days, certified letters, credit hold/stop selling, using collection vendors, etc.
    • Many cut the salesperson’s commissions in a bad debt
    • Some write off bad debt immediately when it’s sent to collections others give a window of time as the first wave of contacts typically has the best success
    • Many are attempting to educate sales on how to handle and talk through these situations (what to say, not to say)
    • Some have regular sales metrics, where AR is tracked
    • Cylinder Leases – varying degree, but most common 1 and 5 years, with some trying to get rid of 10 year or lifetime leases while others are trying to ramp up long-term leases, while still charging transaction fees
    • Finance charges – most negotiate and use it as a sense of urgency, dropping a certain % if payment is made in certain amount of time
    • Credit worthiness – most using either D&B or Credit Safe, many have pdf enabled credit apps, although still a lot customers that prefer paper
  • Lien Waivers
    • Everyone is dealing with paper lien waivers…it’s a toothache you’ve got to deal with
    • Inquiries on if anyone has automated, the answer was no, as many require notary
    • Some use lien waiver as a leverage for payment if there’s anything past due

Topics for next discussion – February 12

  • Evaluating customer performance and pricing
    • Sales volume, margin, pay time, breadth of accounts (i.e 20 job accounts)
  • Company cars/trucks vs. vehicle reimbursement

Please email me with any other topic ideas.

Future CFO Club Meetings

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